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Derrick Jones Jr. vs. Gary Payton II: Career comparison

hussEyquationEarly career · results to date
Regular-season verdict

Gary Payton II ranks higher in career impact so far

Impact comparison

Box impact estimates points per 100 possessions above each season's league average. Higher is better. Career ranks and average league finishes work the other way: lower is better.

#1573Career Impact Rank to datePeak-weighted regular-season rank#1373Leads
+1.0Peak box impact so farEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better+3.2Leads
-1.0Average box impact to dateEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better+2.1Leads
#100Best league finish#31Leads
+227 ptsPoints above replacementCumulative regular-season value+344 ptsLeads
547LeadsGames343

Career Impact Rank places Gary Payton II #1373 and Derrick Jones Jr. #1573. It combines league finishes across each player's best three, five, and ten regular seasons, giving the most weight to the best three.

Regular season only. Impact figures are estimates; small gaps are not exact. Playoffs, awards and titles do not determine the verdict.

Early career · results to datehusseyquation.com/compare/derrick-jones-jr/gary-payton-ii/career
Career Impact RankSee exactly how both rankings are calculatedDerrick Jones Jr.161.600 · No. 1,573Gary Payton II136.707 · No. 1,373

Only the three league-finish windows below determine Career Impact Rank. Career Value and peak impact are separate measures; neither adds points to this calculation. Lower composite scores rank higher.

Derrick Jones Jr.

161.600 composite · No. 1,573 all-time

Derrick Jones Jr.'s Career Composite windows
Window and finishes usedAverage finishWeightContribution
Best 3No. 1002019–20Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1392018–19Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1542025–26131.00050%65.500
Best 5No. 1002019–20Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1392018–19Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1542025–26No. 1902022–23No. 2552020–21167.60030%50.280
Best 10No. 1002019–20Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1392018–19Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 1542025–26No. 1902022–23No. 2552020–21No. 2612021–22No. 2642016–17Recorded box inputsIncludes bounded historical defense estimateNo. 2732023–24No. 2832024–251 open slot × No. 372229.10020%45.820

65.500 + 50.280 + 45.820= 161.600

Open-season rule: every unfilled slot uses No. 372, this player's stored replacement finish.

Gary Payton II

136.707 composite · No. 1,373 all-time

Gary Payton II's Career Composite windows
Window and finishes usedAverage finishWeightContribution
Best 3No. 312021–22No. 762024–25No. 1192023–2475.33350%37.667
Best 5No. 312021–22No. 762024–25No. 1192023–24No. 1392025–261 open slot × No. 388150.60030%45.180
Best 10No. 312021–22No. 762024–25No. 1192023–24No. 1392025–266 open slots × No. 388269.30020%53.860

37.667 + 45.180 + 53.860= 136.707

Open-season rule: every unfilled slot uses No. 388, this player's stored replacement finish.

Averages, contributions, and totals are displayed to three decimal places. The ranking calculation keeps full source precision. Read the full method →

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Full comparison · Career comparison

Understand the numbers

Start with impact, then compare playing time and skills. Team results add context. These are not categories to tally into a winner.

1 · Ranking evidence

Impact: who ranks higher, and why?

Career Impact Rank compares entire regular-season careers across NBA history. It combines average league places across the best three, five, and ten seasons, weighted 50%, 30%, and 20%. A lower rank or average place is better.

Impact: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Career Impact Rank to datePeak-weighted regular-season rank#1573#1373Better result for this metric.
Best 3 average finishAverage league place · lower is better131.075.3Better result for this metric.
Best 5 average finishAverage league place · lower is better167.6150.6Better result for this metric.
Best 10 average finishAverage league place · lower is better229.1Better result for this metric.269.3
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Impact: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Points-above-replacement rankAll-time rank in estimated regular-season points above replacement#1140#956Better result for this metric.
Peak box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better+1.0+3.2Better result for this metric.
Best 3 average box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better+0.2+2.6Better result for this metric.
Best 5 average box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better-0.3Unavailable
Best 10 average box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is betterUnavailableUnavailable
Points above replacementRegular season · fixed -2.0 replacement baseline · higher is better+227 pts+344 ptsBetter result for this metric.
Seasons ranked No. 100
Top-five impact seasons00
Top-ten impact seasons00

2 · Playing time and responsibility

How much did each player take on?

Read games and minutes alongside impact. Offensive usage is the share of team plays a player ends with a shot, free throws, or a turnover while on court. More usage is not automatically better.

Playing time and workload: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Games547343
Minutes11,4345,172

3 · Individual skills

Where does each player have an advantage?

These are each player's averages across up to ten best seasons. Career Impact Rank gives the Best 3, Best 5, and Best 10 average league finishes 50%, 30%, and 20% window weights, giving the most weight to the highest peak. The model accounts for position, role, pace, playing time, and team results. Green marks the better result for a metric, including lower turnover rates. Workload and shot-selection measures stay neutral. These rows are not votes toward the ranking.

Shooting

True shooting includes two-pointers, three-pointers, and free throws.

Shooting: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
True shooting percentage59.6%62.3%Better result for this metric.
True shootingAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile59.9%64.2%Better result for this metric.
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Shooting: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Field-goal percentage50.6%56.4%Better result for this metric.
Three-point percentage33.0%Better result for this metric.32.8%
Free-throw percentage71.2%Better result for this metric.63.0%

Passing

Assist rate is the share of teammates’ made shots assisted while the player is on court. Read turnovers alongside offensive workload; lower turnover rate is generally better.

Passing: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Assist rateAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile5.1%11.8%Better result for this metric.
Assists per game0.81.3Better result for this metric.
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Passing: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Turnover rateAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile9.2%Better result for this metric.11.4%

Rebounding

Rebound rate is the share of available rebounds collected while on court.

Rebounding: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Rebound rateAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile8.9%10.9%Better result for this metric.
Rebounds per game3.3Better result for this metric.3.0

Defense

Steals and blocks describe only part of defense. They do not capture every stop, rotation, or matchup.

Defense: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Steal rateAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile1.6%3.0%Better result for this metric.
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Defense: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Block rateAverage across the best impact seasons selected for the model input profile2.9%Better result for this metric.1.9%

Scoring

Points per game describe scoring volume, not overall impact.

Scoring: Derrick Jones Jr. and Gary Payton II
MetricDerrick Jones Jr.Gary Payton II
Points per game7.5Better result for this metric.5.9

4 · Team context, not ranking inputs

What happened with and without them?

A verified with/without comparison is unavailable for this scope. We do not substitute another season’s observations.

Four separate questions

Impact, winning, playoffs, and awards

These are different ways to understand a career. Only Regular Season Impact determines the hussEyquation verdict. The other three sections add basketball context without adding points or changing the rank.

Career to date. At least one player is active. Every total below stops after the latest completed season in this data; nothing is projected.

Ranking result

Regular Season Impact

Gary Payton II ranks higher in career impact so far.

Derrick Jones Jr.MetricGary Payton II
#1573Career Impact Rank to datePeak-weighted regular-season rank#1373Leads
+1.0Peak box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is better+3.2Leads
-0.3Best 5 average box impactEra-adjusted points per 100 possessions above league average · higher is betterNot available
+227 ptsPoints above replacementRegular season · fixed -2.0 replacement baseline · higher is better+344 ptsLeads

This is the ranking result. It uses regular-season impact only. Team records, playoffs, and awards do not change it.

Context

Team Success

The advantages are split across the available measures.

Derrick Jones Jr.MetricGary Payton II
442Listed-team regular-season wins478Leads
50.1%LeadsListed-team winning percentage49.6%
2Leads50-win team seasons1
060-win team seasons0
6LeadsPlayoff team seasons5

Context only. Not included in Career Impact Rank. Final records for every listed team-season. A traded season can include more than one team.

Context

Playoff Résumé

The advantages are split across the available measures.

Derrick Jones Jr.MetricGary Payton II
5LeadsPlayoff appearances3
51LeadsPlayoff games35
33LeadsTeam playoff wins27
2LeadsFinals appearances1
0Championships1Leads

Context only. Not included in Career Impact Rank. Team playoff results count only seasons when the player appeared in a playoff game.

Context

Awards

No recorded measure separates these careers.

Derrick Jones Jr.MetricGary Payton II
Not availableAll-StarNot available
Not availableMVPNot available
Not availableAll-NBANot available
Not availableAll-DefenseNot available
Not availableDPOYNot available
Not availableRookie of the YearNot available

Context only. Not included in Career Impact Rank. Major regular-season honors are recognition, not inputs to the impact ranking.

How each context field is counted
Listed-team regular-season wins
The sum of each listed team's final wins in every season the player represented that team.
Listed-team winning percentage
Those team wins divided by those teams' total regular-season games.
50- and 60-win team seasons
Listed team-seasons that finished with at least 50 or 60 wins. Shortened seasons are not projected to 82 games.
Team seasons reaching playoffs
Listed team-seasons in which that team qualified for the playoffs.
Playoff appearances and games
Postseasons and games in which the player appeared.
Team playoff wins
Team wins from those postseasons. They describe team results, not individual credit.
Finals appearances and championships
Seasons when the player appeared in the playoffs for the finalist or champion.
Awards
Recorded NBA selections and major regular-season honors. A zero means the source records none; Not available means the source field is missing.

Source and scope Basketball Reference, NBA seasons 1950–51 through 2025–26, accessed 2026-10-09. Active-career totals are results to date through the latest completed season in the source.

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How the careers developed

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Career to date. Active careers stop at the latest completed season; no future seasons are projected.

Estimated points per 100 possessions above that season's league average

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Striped bars mark seasons with fewer than 40 games. A dashed mark means that player had no season at the aligned point.

S means NBA season number; A means player age. Peak labels identify each player's accepted best season. Hover or focus any pair for season detail, or open Season timeline for the complete evidence ledger.