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John Long
John Long stats, teams and career impact
#1137 all-timeCareer averages · 13.6 PPG · 2.8 RPG · 1.9 APGPeak-weighted regular-season model · playoffs, awards, and championships excluded
- Position
- Shooting guard
- Final NBA team
- Toronto Raptors
- Height / weight
- 6 ft 5 in (196 cm) · 195 lb (88 kg)
- Born
- August 28, 1956 (70 yrs old)
- College
- Detroit Mercy
- NBA seasons
- 14 seasons · 1978–79 to 1996–97
Career summaryJohn Long was a shooting guard who played 14 NBA seasons, from 1978–79 through 1996–97.
- Career PPG
- 13.6
- Career RPG
- 2.8
- Career APG
- 1.9
- #96 in 1979–80
- #1137 all-time
Best-Season Impact Rank
Career Impact Rank
Peak-weighted regular-season model · playoffs, awards, and championships excluded
Career overview
Why John Long ranks #1137 all time
John Long ranks #1137 all time. Across his three best seasons, his average league finish was #99.0. His full-career value ranks #931, so longevity is a major reason he lands this high.
450+ minutes required per season
893 games · Career Value Rank #931
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Full player detailsTeam history, career shooting and sources
Full team history
- Teams
- Detroit Pistons, Indiana Pacers, Atlanta Hawks, and Toronto Raptors
Career shooting
NBA regular season- Field goal
- 46.7%FG%
- Three-point
- 32.2%3P%
- Free throw
- 86.2%FT%
893 career games · 22,680 minutes
Sources and updateConventional stats and measurements: Basketball Reference, accessed Sep 13, 2026. hussEyquation ranking data through 2025–26. Life dates: Wikidata; conflicting dates checked against Basketball Reference, accessed Sep 17, 2026.
Traditional box score
John Long stats by season
Start with scoring and impact, then switch views for shooting or the full advanced picture. Career percentages use total makes and attempts.
Box impact is an estimate in points per 100 possessions, not the 0–100 Impact Rate score. Zero is league average; higher is better. Rate rank is a league place: No. 1 is best.
Swipe for PPG · RPG · APG · Box impact · Team · G · GS · MPG →
| pts/100 · higher is better | |||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1996–97 | 4.0 | 1.3 | 0.7 | -4.49 | TOR | 32 | 0 | 11.6 | 39.3% | 35.3% | 89.3% | — | -17.4 |
| 1990–91 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 0.7 | -3.43 | DET | 25 | 0 | 10.2 | 41.2% | 33.3% | 96.0% | — | -7.0 |
| 1989–90 | 8.4 | 1.7 | 1.8 | -3.96 | ATL | 48 | 19 | 21.5 | 45.3% | 34.5% | 83.6% | #261 | -40.4 |
| 1988–89 | 5.5 | 1.1 | 1.2 | -5.35 | DET/IND | 68 | 1 | 13.5 | 40.9% | 40.0% | 92.1% | #258 | -63.2 |
| 1987–88 | 12.8 | 2.8 | 2.1 | -0.11 | IND | 81 | 81 | 25.0 | 47.4% | 44.2% | 90.7% | #101 | 77.8 |
| 1986–87 | 15.2 | 2.7 | 3.2 | -1.32 | IND | 80 | 68 | 28.3 | 41.9% | 28.4% | 89.0% | #149 | 31.6 |
| 1985–86 | 10.0 | 1.6 | 1.3 | -1.05 | DET | 62 | 30 | 19.0 | 48.2% | 18.8% | 85.6% | #147 | 24.2 |
| 1984–85 | 14.7 | 2.9 | 2.0 | -0.69 | DET | 66 | 55 | 27.6 | 48.7% | 33.3% | 86.2% | #133 | 52.3 |
| 1983–84 | 16.3 | 3.5 | 2.5 | -0.50 | DET | 82 | 82 | 30.7 | 47.2% | 20.0% | 88.4% | #123 | 81.6 |
| 1982–83 | 10.5 | 2.6 | 1.5 | -4.32 | DET | 70 | 30 | 21.2 | 45.1% | 28.6% | 76.0% | #248 | -76.0 |
| 1981–82 | 21.9 | 3.7 | 2.1 | -0.18 | DET | 69 | 66 | 32.0 | 49.2% | 13.3% | 86.5% | #105 | 87.6 |
| 1980–81 | 17.7 | 3.3 | 1.8 | -0.01 | DET | 59 | 0 | 29.7 | 46.1% | 18.2% | 87.0% | #100 | 73.4 |
| 1979–80 | 19.4 | 4.9 | 3.0 | +0.05 | DET | 69 | 0 | 34.3 | 50.5% | 8.3% | 82.5% | #96 | 108.3 |
| 1978–79 | 16.1 | 3.2 | 1.5 | -1.51 | DET | 82 | 0 | 30.5 | 46.9% | — | 82.6% | #159 | 27.3 |
| Career | 13.6 | 2.8 | 1.9 | — | ATL/DET/IND/TOR | 893 | — | 25.4 | 46.7% | 32.2% | 86.2% | — | — |
Source: Basketball Reference regular-season totals, accessed Sep 13, 2026.
What these measures mean
- Box impact
- Estimated points per 100 possessions above that season's league average, from the historical box-score model. Zero is league average; higher is better. Historical defense estimates are included where labeled. This is not the live model's lineup-adjusted estimate.
- Impact Rate
- A 0–100 score comparing performance within one season. Higher is better. This is a score, not points per possession.
- Impact estimate
- The season model's final estimated points per 100 possessions above league average, before conversion to the 0–100 Impact Rate score. It includes lineup evidence where available. Zero is league average; higher is better.
- Impact Rate rank
- The player's place among qualified players in that season's Impact Rate ranking. No. 1 is best. This is a rank, not an impact score.
- Value contribution / Season Value
- Completed seasons use a fixed-baseline contribution to Career Value. The live season instead uses Season Value, combining that season's impact with workload.
- Career Impact Rank
- An all-time rank weighted toward the player's best three, five, and ten seasons.
108.2 composite · lower is better
105.0 average league finish
360 total value
- Impact Rate
- 0–100 score within one season. Higher is better.
- Box impact
- Estimated points per 100 possessions above league average, from the historical model. Zero is average; higher is better.
Career standing
How John Long ranks all time
These are league placements, not raw scores. Each season is judged against that season's qualified player pool.
Best in the league
Elite finishes
Upper-tier finishes
Tie-breaker across top-ten seasons
Career Composite Score108.2
Best 3, Best 5, and Best 10 average league finishes receive 50%, 30%, and 20% window weights. Missing seasons receive a replacement finish just below the player's typical qualified field. Lower is better.
- Best 3 effective weight
- 74%
- Missing-season finish
- 255.0
- Qualified seasons
- 12
- All-time rank
- #1137
Strongest seasons
Every season
John Long advanced stats by season
Era-centered box impact supports comparisons through time. Impact Rate and its rank compare players only within that season.
More advanced statsAge, minutes, impact, rank, value and data coverage
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| pts/100 · higher is better | 0–100 · higher is better | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1996–97Historical Defense Estimate | TOR | 40 | 32 | 370 | -4.49 | — | — | -17.4 | — | Limited |
| 1990–91Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 34 | 25 | 256 | -3.43 | — | — | -7.0 | — | Limited |
| 1989–90Historical Defense Estimate | ATL | 33 | 48 | 1,030 | -3.96 | 9.4 | #261 | -40.4 | 11th | Broad |
| 1988–89Historical Defense Estimate | DET/IND | 32 | 68 | 919 | -5.35 | 2.3 | #258 | -63.2 | 2nd | Standard |
| 1987–88Historical Defense Estimate | IND | 31 | 81 | 2,022 | -0.11 | 60.0 | #101 | 77.8 | 64th | Broad |
| 1986–87Historical Defense Estimate | IND | 30 | 80 | 2,265 | -1.32 | 42.2 | #149 | 31.6 | 46th | Broad |
| 1985–86Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 29 | 62 | 1,176 | -1.05 | 42.5 | #147 | 24.2 | 40th | Broad |
| 1984–85Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 28 | 66 | 1,820 | -0.69 | 47.8 | #133 | 52.3 | 51st | Broad |
| 1983–84Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 27 | 82 | 2,514 | -0.50 | 50.8 | #123 | 81.6 | 57th | Broad |
| 1982–83Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 26 | 70 | 1,485 | -4.32 | 2.4 | #248 | -76.0 | 0th | Broad |
| 1981–82Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 25 | 69 | 2,211 | -0.18 | 59.1 | #105 | 87.6 | 65th | Broad |
| 1980–81Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 24 | 59 | 1,750 | -0.01 | 60.1 | #100 | 73.4 | 58th | Broad |
| 1979–80Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 23 | 69 | 2,364 | +0.05 | 58.9 | #96 | 108.3 | 68th | Broad |
| 1978–79Historical Defense Estimate | DET | 22 | 82 | 2,498 | -1.51 | 30.4 | #159 | 27.3 | 38th | Broad |
Career movement
John Long's box impact by season
Peak box impact +0.05 points per 100 possessions in 1979–80 · 14 seasons · 22,680 minutes
Box impact estimates points per 100 possessions above each season's league average. Zero is average; higher is better. Rank labels show Impact Rate league places, not ranks on this chart's box-impact scale.
Box impact · points per 100 possessionsMinutes
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Player-specific impact scaleWorkload
Career comparison
Compare the shape, not the calendar
Align by NBA experience to compare season one with season one, or by age to compare players at the same stage of life.
John LongShaun Livingston
| NBA season | John Long | Shaun Livingston |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | -1.5 | -2.7 |
| 2 | 0.1 | -2.0 |
| 3 | -0.0 | 0.2 |
| 4 | -0.2 | -3.1 |
| 5 | -4.3 | -1.4 |
| 6 | -0.5 | 0.1 |
| 7 | -0.7 | -1.5 |
| 8 | -1.1 | -0.4 |
| 9 | -1.3 | 0.2 |
| 10 | -0.1 | -0.9 |
| 11 | -5.3 | -0.4 |
| 12 | -4.0 | -2.3 |
| 13 | -3.4 | -3.1 |
| 14 | -4.5 | -1.1 |
NBA season number
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