109.7 composite · lower is better
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Player profile · DEN / LAL
John Roche
John Roche advanced stats and career rankings
105.2 average league finish
75 total value
Bottom line · Career overview
John Roche ranks #1963 all time. Across his three best seasons, his average league finish was #158.7. His full-career value ranks #1518, so longevity is a major reason he lands this high. Explore John Roche's advanced stats by season, era-adjusted impact, workload, and historical comparisons.
Career standing
How John Roche ranks all time
These are league placements, not raw scores. Each season is judged against that season's qualified player pool.
Best in the league
Elite finishes
Upper-tier finishes
Standard deviations across scoring seasons
Equal average of Best 3, Prime 5, and Best 10 league finishes. The overlapping windows make this explicitly peak-weighted. Lower is better.
- Best 3 weight
- 63.3%
- Score
- 109.7
- Qualified seasons
- 3
- All-time rank
- #1963
Every season
John Roche advanced stats by season
Era-centered box impact supports comparisons through time. Impact Rate and its rank compare players only within that season.
| Season | Team | Age | GP | MP | Era-centered box impact | Impact Rate | Rate rank | Season Value | Value percentile | Evidence |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1981–82Historical Defense Estimate | DEN | 32 | 39 | 501 | -2.10 | 22.0 | #199 | -1.1 | 22nd | Established |
| 1980–81Historical Defense Estimate | DEN | 31 | 26 | 611 | -1.61 | 33.1 | #167 | 5.4 | 30th | Established |
| 1979–80Historical Defense Estimate | DEN | 30 | 82 | 2,286 | -0.37 | 52.8 | #110 | 80.9 | 59th | Strong |
| 1975–76Historical Defense Estimate | LAL | 26 | 15 | 52 | -10.99 | — | — | -10.5 | — | Limited |
Career movement
John Roche's career impact by season
Peak -0.37 in 1979–80 · 4 seasons · 3,450 minutes
The same historical box-score model is used for every season, making the career shape comparable through time. This is separate from the current lineup-context ranking.
Early-career comparison
Compare the first 4 seasons
Only the first 4 NBA seasons are compared, so this is a similarity of starts—not a prediction of the full career.
NBA season number · fixed impact axis −5 to +15
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85% season match · 1979–80 ↔ 2017–18Impact Rate shows how strong a player was compared with everyone else that season. Season Value adds how much he played. The career ranking rewards a high peak, a long prime, and repeated seasons near the top. Older seasons use clearly labeled estimates where the NBA did not record today's full set of statistics. Read how every ranking works →